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paulG



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 3:28 am    Post subject: Port NoteStudio to Windows Mobile? Reply with quote

Palm is coming out with a Treo 670 that runs on Windows Mobile 5.0 (Pocket PC). According to Engadget, this may be a sign of things to come. Any plans to create a NoteStudio version that runs on that platform?
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ant
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that for real? A treo running Windows Mobile? That would be interesting!

We spent some time getting a very minimal Note Studio running on Windows Mobile a few months ago. It was running OK, you could edit pages, etc (and, because Windows Mobile has a native HTML viewer, the pages actually looked nicer than on the Palm!). But we ran into a technical problem to do with an issue called unicode. We realised we have to convert some of our stuff, which is a bigger job than we hoped. We do get lots of requests for Pocket PC, etc, so we might continue that work in the future. But for now we've got our hands full with NS3 on the PC/Mac/Palm!
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Chad1



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What kind of problems were you having with Unicode? I'm a Windows developer who's had a couple years' experience with Unicode, I'd be happy to help with them if I could. I don't have a Windows Mobile device though.
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sid-the-bad



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's keep focused on palm here. We all paid $50+ and continued palm support/bug solving are important to me and I';m sure lots of others.
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Chad1



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more people that can use the program, the more people that can buy it, and the more support dogMelon can justify throwing at it. I don't think having multiple platforms will be a problem for that.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chad1: 'Technical problem' might have been the wrong expression. It was more that it was a bigger job than we had time for. With the Mac, for example, our libraries could compile straight across with very little modification. To go to the Pocket PC, we have to start changing everywhere we have hard-coded chars instead of wide chars or TCHARS. It was a big enough that we put it aside for now, with everything we're working on.

sid-the-bad: I hear you loud and clear. We're still heavily committed to the Palm platform, and that's not going to change anytime soon. Most of our Note Studio revenue comes from the Palm version, so we'd be crazy to ignore it. The next version of NS (due later this month) will have some nice little improvements on the Palm side. Chad1 also raises a valid point, about the relationship between selling additional licences, and having resources available to keep development efforts ticking away. A second point is that sometimes we get users whose company mandates a change from Palm -> Pocket PC, and they are stuck not being able to run NS. We don't want people 'stranded' without NS. Also, sometimes people move from PC->Mac or vice-versa, and they used to have the same issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ant wrote:
Chad1: 'Technical problem' might have been the wrong expression. It was more that it was a bigger job than we had time for. [...]

Ah, yes... we had to dedicate a developer to it for a couple weeks to Unicode-enable our main program, and it's not very string-intensive. If it helps any, we took it in stages, adding Unicode capability to each module separately and using the MultiByteToWideChar and WideCharToMultiByte functions to translate between formats until all the modules could handle Unicode.

If you do run into any problems I might be able to help with, feel free to contact me privately.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Chad1
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dalelane



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:35 am    Post subject: yes please! Reply with quote

i'm joining this a bit late, i know - but just thought i'd add my support for this

my Clie ux50 is starting to feel it's age, and in my looking round for a replacement, the best i can see is the HTC Universal which unfortunately would mean a change to Windows Mobile

i've got a lot of stuff in my NS books, so the ability to move to Windows Mobile and take my data with me would be fantastic
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:16 am    Post subject: port it, please! Reply with quote

I fully agree with PaulG and dalelane and I'm sure that there are hundreds out there who would appreciate a portation of Note Studio to Windows Mobile - because there's nothing like it for the PPC World (and believe me: I really searched the net!).

So: Could you please port NS!... Rolling Eyes

Marino
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dalelane



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: port it, please! Reply with quote

marino57 wrote:
...there's nothing like it for the PPC World...


really? i think i am gonna get myself an XDA Exec to replace my Clie, so need somewhere else to keep my data - even if only temporarily until a windows mobile NoteStudio emerges.... does anyone have any suggestions?
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paulG



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too have searched all over the place and there's nothing for Windows PC that's even CLOSE to NoteStudio >> No "Wiki Editor", no wiki software, nothing.

This, I think because of a paradygm problem: What I've found through discussion groups, etc are only very complicated emulators of wiki NETWORKS and community text-editors (the "wiki" in the larger sense). But nothing like NoteStudio as a stand-alone wiki-base document creation tool. Search for "Is there wiki software for Windows PC?" on user groups/forums and the response you get back is "Uff! are you crazy?? How you gonna make it share with the rest of the network??!!" or "Who would ever want to create a wiki for themselves alone???" Idiots. ;~)

Ant, there's a huge opportunity for you guys here! /pg.
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marino



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:18 am    Post subject: Substitute Reply with quote

the only way I found so far is to export my NS-books as HTML-files and to edit them manually with a HTML-editor on my Pocket PC --- Although I'm quite familiar with HTML, making "notes" in HTML-code sucks... Crying or Very sad

So, Ant: What do you say to us poor PPC-users???
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So, Ant: What do you say to us poor PPC-users???


Well, it's something we're looking at, but we're going to promise anything yet.
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dalelane



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

would a Viewer be any easier to implement than the full-blown NS?

cos if so, that alone would make a massive difference for me - being able to carry my notes with me again, even if i couldnt edit it.... i didn't realise how much i relied on note studio until i sold my Palm!
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